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Old 09-16-2009, 06:07 AM
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Hi All,

Thinking on what Gitano has imparted about limb draw weights and arrow weights I decided to weigh the arrows I have including the new ones which arrived in the post this morning. So I now have three different arrow types these being:-

1) 8x Eastern Platinum 2016 Lite XX75 in 32" length (tip to centre of Nock) weight 466 grains. The alloy shaft is 5/16" (0.311")

2) 10x Armex alloy (8mm Dia) shaft 30" long with screwed in point =31" OAL weight 502 grains. The screw in point is alloy weighs 158 Grains.

3) Armex fibreglass 0.268" dia ( 6.83mm) 30 1/2" long including the this metal field point weighing 508 grains in total.


Ahhh well you guessed it well I couldn't wait until this evening to see how it goes so I am now down to 9 Fibreglass arrows it's buried in the grass of the field and I cannot find it. Dumb me just tried shooting it and watching where it went. No sight fitted to bow and the second time I shot it well it's lost in the thinck grass thatch on the field. I know where abouts it went but cannot find it. Naturally I WILL find it with the mower when cutting the field .

So I thought Ah-Ha I'll use a bag of bark chippings and shoot at that this time with the sight. Are you ready for a laugh?

I fetched a bag of bark chippings but it wouldn't stand up on it's own being only a 20 litre bag so I grabbed Dad's ..................... notice Dad's garden fork jammed stuck in the ground and lent the bag against it. the bark chippings are toughter than i though and the fibreglass arrow with it's blunted point bounced back out so I tried the alloy shafted/pointed arrows and missed to the left. Had a devil of a job finding the arrow even though I saw it went right at the base of the bag just to the left. Finally recovered it and tried again. The arrow struck dead centre and I mean dead centre and came flying back out and some white bit flew and landed just in front of me. Strange I thought. Went and retrieved the arrow to find the nock was missing. Yep the white bit and when I looked the point it's was very blunted. Yeah you guessed it straight through the bag and hit the NEW wooden fork handle dead centre I'll now have to rub the handle down to remove any splinters and possibly get a new handle and fit it. Will see how it goes.

Oh of course the new alloy shaft was bent too but I think with some care I have managed to straighten it. I will go and see a local farmer and see if we can get 6 nice big square bails to act as a backstop and I will buy the straw target roundal from the club TONIGHT! meanwhile I have numbered all the arrows, #10 in the alloys is the one I straightened.

Oh I managed to draw the Bow OK and will see how we do this evening with it before making the decision about lighter limbs.
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Old 09-16-2009, 06:49 AM
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This is proving to be highly entertaining. Are you sure we are not related as this sounds a lot like the way I usually proceed with new toys.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:14 AM
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Sounds like you should invest in a few "judo" tips for your arrows.

They have little spring steel "fingers" that grab grass and such, causing the arrow to tumble rather than bury itself under grass. They're also deadly on small game.



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Old 09-16-2009, 09:12 AM
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Here in the States, fiberglass arrows are relegated mostly to fishing due to their very heavy weight. They are also included in most "beginners" kits.

The target shooters here in Alaska, and I assume elsewhere in the US, all use aluminum arrows as big around as they can get. Scoring in archery is such that if the arrow or the arrow's marke simply touches a ring, the higher value is scored. The thinking is that an arrow that is bigger around will score higher even though the center of its point hit the exact same spot as a smaller diameter arrow. Silliness to me, but most target shooting minutia are silliness to me.

Let me urge you to get arrows properly spined for your draw weight. Small matters in spine don't matter much, but large differences in spine matter a lot. You will be a much happier archer if your arrows are properly spined to your bow. "Spine" is the flexibility of the arrow. The higher the draw weight, the stiffer the spine. My personal opinion is that large diameter lightly-spined aluminum arrrows are the "best" choice for target shooting until one reaches the level of competition where money is involved. You can find spine charts in any reputable "store" ("brick and mortar" or internet) that sells arrows.

Keep the updates coming. They're a riot. We are kindred spirits.

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Well I think we can call that one lost as I even got the ride on mower out and cut the grass where it went and did so several times until it's short. The grass was about 5" long to start with and it's now about 1". Yet I cannot find the arrow and the mower didn't either. Of course shooting at short range about 25 paces the angle of entry was low.

Glad I gave you a laugh .

I am now off down to the archery club to make sure this is all set up correctly and have some shooting practice under the watchful eye of a coach. I should return with a 4ft straw target roundal this evening .
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If you take a rake to the area you think the arrow went, you might recover it.

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I have just entered the Robin Hood, group.
No longer have to have a Dr.'s certificate to use a crossbow for deer and there is a 1 month long early deer season here.
Both shoulders are bad, so I could get the certificate if I wished.
I had a shop test my draw weight, 26lb.
I found a 20lb. compound, then ordered a 150lb. recurve crossbow, I can't **** it!
Found how to make a pulley cocking rig so the crossbow is now useable.
Tried the compound and the crossbow over the chronograph.
!5' separation, compound 108fps, placed an arrow with a practice point 17" into damp sand.
Recurve crossbow, 217fps, 15' separation, 19" deep in damp sand, I had to dig for the 16" bolt.
It appears even the 20lb. compound would be capable of killing a deer or pig.
Likely a waste of time and money, but who knows?
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Don

Real changes from when I tried bow hunting. I won't go into how many years ago that was.

As I read them there is no minimum draw weight for a regular bow. 125 for a crossbow but using a cross bow during special deer bow season requires you to have a Dr's permit of upper body problems on your person while hunting. Page 56 of the OUTDOOR ANNUAL under CROSSBOW near the bottum of the page. It is legal for anyone during all other legal seasons except muzzle loader.

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Al, call '1 800 792 1112, the lady will tell you the changes passed and no permit or Dr.'s letter is needed now.
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Cool, I was trying to be careful.
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