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Re: 45-70 Wildcats.......why aren't there any?
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Old 01-10-2008, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: 45-70 Wildcats.......why aren't there any?

I would tend to agree with Daryl's comments in general - the rimmed case - but in fact there is a small 'mountain' of cartridges of length 2.1" or less having a nominal rim diameter of 0.608". Meaning they are the same as the .45-70. The resulting cartridges are rarely listed as .45-70 "wildcats". Instead, being made from the "45 Basic" case, they have their own names. Also, by the time "wildcats" on rimmed cartridges was again in vogue, the .444 Marlin case (length = 2.225", rim diameter = .540"), was available with its "modern" action. Consequently when someone wanted to build a rimmed wildcat - usually for increased MV meaning increased chamber pressure - they chose the Marlin case instead of the .45-70. Almost all of the JDJ wildcats - some now factory cartridges - are based on the .444 Marlin case which is essentially the .30-40 Krag. The number of cartridges using that .540" rim diameter is amazing. I'll go through Donnely's book and list some of the cartridges based on the 45 Basic (.45-70) case.

Paul

.280 Flanged Nitro Express
.30 Howell
.30/348 Win - Here's your .30/.45-70
.33 Winchester - Here's a .338/.45-70
.348 Winchester - Here's a .348/.45-70
.35/.348 Win - Here's a .358/.454-70
.38-56 Winchester - A .375/.45-70, which BTW is listed as a .45-70 "wildcat"
.38-70 Winchester - ditto
.38-72 Winchester - ditto
.38-90 Winchester - ditto
.40-50 Sharps - Another .45-70 "wildcat"
.40-60 Marlin - Another .45-70 "wildcat"
.40-60 Winchester - Another .45-70 "wildcat"
.40-65 Ballard Everlasting
.40-65 - Winchester - Another .45-70 "wildcat"
.40-70 Remington
.40-90 Sharps Necked
.40-70 Sharps Necked
.40-70 Winchester
.40-82 Winchester
.40-85 Ballard
.40-90 Sharps Straight
and so forth...

Paul

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