Thanks Paul, as usual, i agree with your insight.  BUT, you bought the magic bullet! AHHHH
Of all people, i would have never imagined you,LOL! All kidding aside, thats one thing i have never done, and will never do, is buy from a tv ad.  Recently i saw an ad for a circular saw, that has 2 blades going in oppisite directions.  Have you seen this thing?  Looks amazing, but being on a tv ad i am suspicious.

Nels, i was shooting my bow the other day next to a guy shooting the new mathews Z7.  My bow is extremely quiet, but i could hardly hear the mathews at all, probably the most quiet bow i have ever heard.  The mathews are just too heavy for me.  And yes, the carbon hoyt looks like a pretzel!

Ha! I couldn't find the right adjective for the Hoyt but "pretzel" is right on. Good to hear it's quiet too.

Nels