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Gmoney
02-26-2006, 03:11 PM
Went home quickly this weekend for my brothers final high school basketball game and of course went hunting.....

Had some good action for 2 hourse....7 productive stands in a row then they quit....

Called up this dude, they are pretty rare around my area and a lot of people see this and have no idea they are in TX......any guesses? Those who know...shhhhhhhhhttp://www.thehunterslife.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

Threw in a fox pic as well.....the .204 is out of commission for a while b/c of the superior skills of a FED-EX employee (ehhh Barry!) so I had to settle for a 45 grain HP out of a .223......http://www.thehunterslife.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

buckshot roberts
02-26-2006, 06:44 PM
Gmoney, been out in your area a lot over the years, I never saw anything like that gritter, I have no idea, but thats a dang good pic of it, Ron

Daryl (deceased)
02-26-2006, 08:08 PM
I know what it is, but I'll let y'all guess a while.

;)

Daryl

rockinbbar
02-26-2006, 08:14 PM
I second Daryl...I know, but I'll give it some time...LOL.

One day Fed-Ex will show, Greg...;)

RatherBHuntin
02-26-2006, 08:43 PM
I think I know. I've only seen one, and it was roadkill down by the San Saba.

Antler3
02-26-2006, 10:18 PM
I have no idea, but I'll take a guess....a ringtail tooter LOL ! I am anxiously awaiting the answer though.

Hunterbug
02-27-2006, 01:21 AM
A south Texas fur tailed short nosed rat? I have no idea.

crowkiller
02-27-2006, 08:56 AM
Come on tell us what that is, Ive been searching the net for an hour now!:)
It looks like a cat...

bowhunter 51
02-27-2006, 09:22 AM
I think you done popt-a-cap on somebodies exotic critter, done escaped!!!...

gitano
02-27-2006, 10:00 AM
Very cool. You know what I'm asking don't ya Gmoney? :D

Bassariscus astutus - would be a big hint for those that web-crawl.

Paul

Gmoney
02-27-2006, 10:09 AM
Gitano, I have bad news...I know what you're asking.....The freezer I was going to freeze your animals in before shipment...well, errr......guess what? Put it this way...the other day I noticed an odd smell in the kitchen...Could not determine what it was....SOOOOO...I then put my hearing to use and notice the big deep freeze is not working.....I open the freezer and I had lost about 1/2 of the venison sausage I made over the break b/c the freezer quit running....so I have no deep freeze anymore so I may have to raincheck you on the critters till I have the resources to do so....

This dude is a ringtail cat....Gitano got it right....100 % nocturnal and he had woodpecker on his menu tonight as he almost climbed in the truck with me....they eat fruit, insects, lizards, birds, carrion....basically whatever they can get in their mouth.....their tail is much biger is person than what the picture shows and I must say they are beautiful....for those who want more info do a google for "ringtail cat".......good guesses everyone....;)

killahog
02-27-2006, 10:26 AM
I have no Idea but I would like to gun one down. I think I would have checked the game laws before I put a picture on the net. you did say you found it dead as a road kill correct;)

Daryl (deceased)
02-27-2006, 11:57 AM
Killahoo,

They're legal, at least here in Az they are. Trouble is, they're nocturnal, and the only thing we can hunt at night here is raccoon.

Go figure.

Daryl

sav17
02-27-2006, 12:19 PM
oops appears to be on the red list:D your friend ..................................Richie

Hunterbug
02-27-2006, 01:52 PM
A ringtail. I didn't know that they were a North American species. You learn something new every day.

buckshot roberts
02-27-2006, 02:56 PM
Yep go google, Now I know, Ron

(http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/procloto.htm)
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The Mammals of Texas - Online Edition Ringtail
Order Carnivora (http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/ordcarni.htm) : Family Procyonidae : Bassariscus astutus (Lichtenstein)

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/images/bassastu.jpgDescription. A cat-sized carnivore resembling a small fox with a long raccoon-like tail; tail flattened, about as long as head and body, banded with 14 to 16 alternating black and white rings (black rings incomplete on underside), and with a black tip; five toes on each foot, armed with sharp, curved, non-retractile claws; upperparts fulvous, heavily overcast with blackish; face sooty gray with large, distinct, whitish area above and below each eye, and one at anterior base of each ear; eye ring black; back of ears whitish toward tip, grayish basally; underparts whitish, tinged with buff; underfur all over plumbeous. Dental formula as in raccoons (http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/procloto.htm). External measurements average: (males), total length, 802 mm; tail, 410 mm; hind foot, 78 mm; ear, 55 mm; (a female), 714-350-65 mm. Weight, 1-1.5 kg.

http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/images/dmapicon.gif (http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/tmot1/images/dmap231.jpg)Distribution in Texas. Statewide, but uncommon in lower Rio Grande and Coastal Plains of southern Texas.

Habits. Ringtails live in a variety of habitats within their range, but they have a decided preference for rocky areas such as rock piles, stone fences, canyon walls, and talus slopes. They occur less commonly in woodland areas where they live in hollow trees and logs, and they are also known to live in buildings. They are expert climbers, capable of ascending vertical walls, so they have little difficulty in searching out and denning in well-protected crevices, crannies, and hollows.

These "cats" are almost wholly nocturnal and spend the greater part of the day asleep in their dens and venture forth at night to feed. Resting dens seem to differ in no essentials from nursery dens. One nursery den found in Mason County was in a crevice near the bottom of a rocky bluff. It was about 12.5 cm in diameter at the entrance and tapered to a narrow crack about 75 cm beyond. A female and her four young were occupying it at the time. No nest was constructed for the young. In this section of Texas, rock fences seemed to be favored denning sites. Another nursery den found in McCulloch County was in an old hollow stump on the side of a rocky bluff. A nest consisting of a few dry leaves was in the bottom of the cavity.

Ringtails eat a wide variety of foods. In central Texas, as judged by the examination of the digestive tracts of more than 100 ringtails, their diet consists of small passerine birds (9.9%); small mammals (rats, mice, squirrels, cottontails), including carrion (24.4%); snakes and lizards (3.9%); toads and frogs (0.2%); insects, mostly grasshoppers and crickets (31.2%); spiders, scorpions and centipedes (11.1%); and fruits of native plants, principally persimmon, hackberry, and mistletoe (19.3%). The diet varies with the season: largely birds, mammals, and fruits of hackberry and mistletoe in winter; mammals, insects, and juniper berries in spring; insects, spiders, scorpions, centipedes, and persimmon fruit in summer. Insufficient data are available to determine the food in autumn.

The breeding season appears to be restricted to a relatively short period of the year. In central Texas, the females appear to come into heat about April 1. Most females examined between April 15 and May 18 were pregnant. The exact gestation period is unknown, but it is probably about 45-50 days. In 10 females examined, the number of embryos ranged from two to four, averaging 3.3. At birth, the young are covered with short, whitish hair; they are blind, the ears are closed, and they are nearly helpless. The eyes open about 31-34 days after birth; the ears about a week earlier. The juvenile pelage, which is similar to that of the adult but paler and fuzzy, has replaced the natal pelage by this time. At the age of 4 months the young are indistinguishable from adults, except for their smaller size.

Photo courtesy of Texas Parks and Wildlife.

Gmoney
02-27-2006, 05:42 PM
Killahog....yes they are legal here in TX to take...they are classified as a "fur-bearer".....

Thanks for the heads up but I don't do anything illegal when it comes to hunting/fishing....

Buckshot, that is it, nice picture...notice how large the tail is in that picture....they have larger teeth than many may realize...I would not like to be bitten by one....

Like I said and Daryl said, they are 100% nocturnal, you see one when the sun is out it is probably rabid.....

H'bug....not too many folks know that they are in TX let alone in the US, you'd think they would live down by the border of TX and Mexico b/c all kinds of stuff lives down there in the valley but they are extremely rare down there.....they are found statewide in TX....

rockinbbar
02-27-2006, 06:20 PM
When I was in high school, the hide from a ringtail would bring $15-20....Not bad.....But an old he-coon without rubs would bring $35.00. That is ubskinned as well, because most of the furbuyers in Texas would have their own staff of skinners.
They would deduct a dollar "skinning fee"...Suited me fine, esp. when I brought in a coyote...:D

Gmoney
02-27-2006, 06:28 PM
Barry, 2 years ago when we sold our furs whole....a good coon was 6-8....a ringtail was 10, a fox was 10-15, and a good cat fur would bring 100....forget selling the coyotes..the ears here are worth 150.....

Gotta love selling furs on the animal.....;).....this guy was in Llano and last year we were told he moved away....made some money off him.....the Fed-ex folks did come get the airplane propellor, right? If not I bet it may be downrange at the 300 yard mark....;).....

rockinbbar
02-28-2006, 06:10 AM
Greg,
They got the propellor, but have not seen your pkg. as of yet....Maybe today?

Bluegunner
03-01-2006, 05:37 PM
Ringtail - How's that for a Minnesotian?:)

crowkiller
03-02-2006, 11:28 AM
Hmm, it says in the text from Buckshot that the ringtail have non-retractile claws, but on the pic the look exactly like cat paws.

Gmoney
03-02-2006, 12:35 PM
Crowkiller, the feet do very much look like cat claws in the sense that they are padded and similar in shape. However, the claws are non-retractable and quite small, I would say quite a bit smaller than a cat.

neufdaddy
03-03-2006, 04:47 PM
It's simplay called a ringtail. Scientific name Bassariscus astutus . Here's alink that covers it.
http://www.nsrl.ttu.edu/TMOT1/bassastu.htm

kilkritrsnow
03-07-2006, 12:34 PM
looks like a ring tail ,I used to work for Y.O.Ranch in Mt.Home Tx. and we saw alot of them pretty common in that country!:eek:

Rodders
03-09-2006, 04:10 AM
Well, if you were in africa I would have guessed one of the genets.
Why?
Well take a look.
http://www.wildwatch.com/images/resources/mammals/genet0707_3.jpg

ArkyYoter
03-11-2006, 08:08 AM
We don't have them in Arkansas, but I know what it is :) That's 'cause I am older than dirt.....


Joe